>From: Wojtek Sokolowski <sokol at jhu.edu>
>Reply-To: lbo-talk at lists.panix.com
>To: lbo-talk at lists.panix.com
>Subject: Re: it's heating up
>Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 10:40:44 -0400
>
>At 09:05 PM 10/25/00 +0000, Justin wrote:
> >Fair enough, but "some degree of cooperation" isn't the same as "bend
>over
> >and spread your cheeks": I will work with Democrats on issues where there
>is
> >enough overlap of shared interest to warrant it; I will support
>Democrats'
> >on issues where i don't really care if they do likewise where I do care.
>I
> >will even vote for _genuinely_ progressive Dems, typically at the local
> >level. In my job I cannot campaign, but I would not denounce people who
>did
> >campaign for Dems who are good guys--not not-really-lesser-evils.
>However,
> >we have to get more out of it than, "We're really terrible and won't
>listen
> >to you, but think of how much worse the other guy is." --jks
>
>
>I agree. However, I was making my argument in the context of a larger
>discussion on this list whether we should vote for Nader. He might be a
>hero of corporate wars, but his presidential campaign is phony - a safety
>valve for disgruntled intellectuals to air their discontent with little
>organizational or social base. His chance of winning the preseidential
>election are in the same order of magnitude as dying in a plane crash. Thus
>the resources wasted on a stillborn presidential campaign would be better
>spent on building grassroots movements at local levels and either endorsing
>or running progressive candidates as you suggest.
>
>
>I can understand that Nader's campaign might be a strategy to pass the 5%
>treshold to receive federal funding - but that is an entirely different
>ball game than whether we should vote for Dems or for Nader. That implies a
>different strategy, aptly suggested by one of Doug's posting which
>suggested that in the states where either Bush or Gore have a solid lead
>progressives should vote for nader, otherwise - for Gore.
>
>Doug, BTW, would do us a big favor is he told the list which state is which
>(MD used to be solid Democrat but the higher "education" industry is
>producing conservatives and reactionaries at an astonishing rate) instead
>of hoarding his proprietary model to the paying clients of his.
>
>That would be one of the areas where cooperation between Greens and Dems
>would really help building a progressive movement.
>
>wojtek
>
>
>
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