NYT on Bush judge appointments

Justin Schwartz jkschw at hotmail.com
Tue Oct 31 13:21:17 PST 2000


Subsequent research indicates that the expression is Cicero's in Contra Cataline I. (Your public servants at work.) --jks


>From: Carrol Cox <cbcox at ilstu.edu>
>Reply-To: lbo-talk at lists.panix.com
>To: lbo-talk at lists.panix.com
>Subject: Re: NYT on Bush judge appointments
>Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 13:06:51 -0600
>
>Justin Schwartz wrote:
>
> > You were think of the homonym "mores" as on "O tempora! O mores!" (Oh,
>the
> > times! Oh, the morals!), which I believe is Seneca, right Carrol? --jks
>
>I'm better on Greek than Roman sources -- but it sounds like a stoic to
>always
>be whining. :-)
>My favorite Latin is "laudatores temporis acti," as in the lines from Canto
>15:
>
> and the swill full of respecters,
> bowing to the lords of the place,
> explaining its advantages,
> and the laudatores temporis acti,
> claiming that the shit used to be blacker and richer
> and the fabians crying for the petrification of putrefaction . . .
>.
>
>Would "O tempora o mores" be an implicit claim that the shit used to be
>blacker
>and richer? If it was Seneca, that might have been his view.
>
>Cantos 14-16 were mostly Pound's reaction to the Great War *before* he had
>discovered Mussolini and become a self-conscious fascist.
>
>Carrol
>

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