geeks

[kelley]

ac, you are being inordinately dense and it's time to educate yourself by 
stepping out and reading the books i've suggested.  you are standing under 
an air conditioning unit saying, "it's leaking.  geez. gotta fix that!" and 
have not actually attended to one thing i've written, not one. that's 
because you aren't familiar either with the literature nor have you taken 
an objective look at your own discipline.  i forwarded stuff here written 
by people elsewhere, stuff that went veritably unrefuted on a list of 
1000.  now, there's a problem there if you cannot see how the attitudes 
expressed at dc stuff are attitudes that are not uncommon regarding the 
incredible specialness of IT folks, at least some factions of them.  there 
is an argument that technological knowledge is somehow different, harder, 
and so when you master it you have control.  not so, as studies of other 
occupations making smae claimes have shown.

sure, others don't feel the way that the Overtime post illustrated (chris 
susi is one, but then his views would be held by some here as racist, 
nationalist, nonsense or at lest feeding into what noonan (A GEEK my lord) 
called, "anit-union, anti-immigrant, assholes")

as illustrated by other "technical" occupations (like pilots who have an 
incredible amount of power and ability to define the situation) they are 
not immune to the more vulgar dimensions of intraclass warfare.

i have heard from a number of geeky lefties offlist.  kendall seems to get 
it.  joe noonan seems to get it.  les seems to get it. peter v seems to get 
it, tho perhaps he's had no time to refute.  yoshie and carrol, not geeks, 
seem to get it.  so maybe the problem is not my analysis eh?  a flaw in 
lefty analysis perhaps, but that's a bigger problem than your sense that 
somehow i'm an ignoramous who should be called, "dear".  (it's always nice, 
of course, to have a chivalrous lefty come to your aid on that 
one.  smooches dd, i love ya! :) and i'm just teasing you in the end.)

kelley