Exorcist

Charles Brown CharlesB at CNCL.ci.detroit.mi.us
Fri Sep 22 09:46:37 PDT 2000


Yes, the uncertainty, the act of measuring changes the thing measured. And I know it has resulted in some people considering that this is something unknowable in principle.

But there seems to be some impatience here to me. In the history of science there have been a number of mysteries that remain mysterious for a longer time than has quantum mechanics. I don't see where it is warranted ( one of your favorite words :>)) to conclude that the quantum mechanics puzzle will never be solved or can never be solved.

Isn't this what Einstein's "God doesn't play with dice" statement is about ?

CB


>>> JKSCHW at aol.com 09/21/00 04:09PM >>>
Charles, let me tell you something about quantum mechanics: it is a fundamenral result of the theory that the position and velocity of a particle are not both determinable at the same time. Actually q-physics is generally so weird that it is very hard to know what you know when you know it. --jks

In a message dated Thu, 21 Sep 2000 3:34:06 PM Eastern Daylight Time, "Charles Brown" <CharlesB at CNCL.ci.detroit.mi.us> writes:

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>>> JKSCHW at aol.com 09/20/00 10:37PM >>>As for the actual rationality of believing in the literal truth of Catholic
dogma, it's not supposed to be rational. The mysteries of the Church are _mysteries_; we're not supposed to get them. Is it irrational to accept a faith that has mysteries? I am not so sure. I think quantum physics is true, and I once could do the maths (can't any more), so I can tell you, you want real mysteries, check out quantum physics. Or indeed, Marxism, with the transmogrifications of Value that have been getting some play here lately, the faith in the planned rational society, and the conviction that the working class Messiah will rise to bring on that glorious day. I am not making fun of Marxsim any more than I am making fun of quantum mechanics. My point is rather just that there is a lot of mystery and faith in things even irreligious people here accept. Why not Catholicism?

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CB: Perhaps a way to differentiate science and religion, is that for science there are an infinity of unknowns, but nothing is unknowable in principle. For religion, Christianity anyway, some things are unknowable in principle.

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