<HTML>In a message dated 11/5/2000 10:35:46 AM Eastern Standard Time, owner-lbo-talk-digest@lists.panix.com writes: <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Say, I've never heard Douglass and John Brown put in contrast like this before. I understood that Douglass always admired Brown (if not always agreeing with him), that he himself briefly considered going on the Harper's Ferry raid, and that he considered this act of "self-contented, suicidal righteousness" a feat of heroism that helped the great cause. Or am I missing something?</BLOCKQUOTE> Yes, you are mistaking Harriet Tubman, who took the position you attribute to Douglass, for Douglass. Leo Casey United Federation of Teachers 260 Park Avenue South New York, New York 10010-7272 (212-598-6869) Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never has, and it never will. If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and yet deprecate agitation are men who want crops without plowing the ground. They want rain without thunder and lightening. They want the ocean without the awful roar of its waters. -- Frederick Douglass -- </HTML>