<HTML>Well, Kelly my love, we can't even agree on what is boring. If there is one genre of film and text that I have found absolutely boring, one genre which is as stereotypically predictable as the sun rising at the start of the day and setting at the end of the day, it is pornography. If ever there was a world of pseudo-trangression, it is, IMHO, the world of academics steeped in such a culture; if ever there was an example of the Foucaultian thesis that "repression" is not the primary mechanism of modern power, and that "liberation" from such "repression" is an illusory escape from the mechanisms of power, pornography fits the bill. I happily cede to you a superior knowledge of the genre, and willingly admit that I know next to nothing of your examples. But, I must disappoint you: my discursive intention is not to excite, not to relieve you from your boredom and ennui. Alas, even if I thought that those were worthwhile activities, and I must admit that the mere thought of them strikes me as, well, boring, I fear that there are pretty constitutive of your current social condition. But it was a fairly graceful an exit from an argument where you were clearly mistaken in about five different places, without any admission to that end. Could we call that "rhetorical deviousness?" <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">there wasn't a lick of personal insult in any of that.  the pivner quote was n't a suggestion that what you typed was like a fart. the suggestion that you wear a see thru nighty is about how you continue to provoke and it's not turning me on. think of it like this, leo. it's more like blowing smoke rings. have you ever seen the porn flick, Deep Throat?  In the opening scene, Linda Lovelace's roomate is spread eagle on the kitchen counter blowing smoke rings, while her bf goes to town. think of it like that, me and linda's roomate blow smoke rings because this fuck is boring.</BLOCKQUOTE> Leo Casey United Federation of Teachers 260 Park Avenue South New York, New York 10010-7272 (212-598-6869) Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never has, and it never will. If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and yet deprecate agitation are men who want crops without plowing the ground. They want rain without thunder and lightening. They want the ocean without the awful roar of its waters. -- Frederick Douglass -- </HTML>