have you taken on yoshie's debate techniques? or has she been your docile student all this time? we're discussing brown because that's what made the papers. if people from duke, etc. don't tell us about what happened there, we can't fucking know. duke doesn't make the national media for obvious reasons, brown/berk/etc does. brown/berk capture the popular imagination about just what's wrong with the left so, as i said way back, we're stuck discussing this on the terms that horowitz wanted it discussed on--that is, if we bother to talk about this things at all outside our small little circle of like minded lefties and actually have to deal with people that disagree with the left, think that racism's not a problem, etc.