[ASDnet] Horowitz publishes white, racial nationalist paleo-con....

Michael Pugliese debsian at pacbell.net
Tue Apr 10 16:38:50 PDT 2001


----- Original Message ----- From: "George Greene" <greeneg at cs.unc.edu> To: <asdnet at igc.topica.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2001 1:21 PM Subject: Re: [ASDnet] Horowitz publishes white, racial nationalist paleo-con....


> : From: Christopher Rhoades =?iso-8859-1?Q?D=FFkema?= <crdbronx at erols.com>
> : Around 1980 Koreans began to buy up small stores, especially, though
not
> : exclusively fruit and vegetable stores. The phrase "Korean store" has
come to
> : mean a green grocery.
>
> Are you talking about the Bronx or about Los Angeles?
Kim , Claire. Bitter fruit: The politics of Black- Korean conflict in New York City 2000 ... http://www.thenewrepublic.com/archive/0499/041999/siegel041999.html Neo-Con, Fred Siegal, of the Manhattan Institute on the Sonny Carson organized demos against Korean-American merchants after the murder of LaTasha Harlins. For less incendiary look at Sonny Carson and NY cultnats see contemporary reportage in In These Times by Salim Muwakkil.

For the history of Korean entrepeneurship in L.A. see, "Immigrant Entrepreneurs Koreans in Los Angeles, 1965-1982, " Ivan Light and Edna Bonacich. Bonacich is a neo-marxist sociologist. Wrote some of the pioneering works in "dual labor market"/segmented labor markets that Michael Reich developed in his marxist work on Racial domination. Ong, Paul, Edna Bonacich, and Lucie Cheng (eds) 1994. The New Asian Immigration in Los Angeles and Global Restructuring. Philadelphia: Temple University Press. http://www.google.com/search?q=cache:www.fabrads.com/AApublics/biblio.html+U .C.+Press+Black-Korean&hl=en http://www.sscnet.ucla.edu/soc/groups/ccsa/lee.PDF (JOCKEYING FOR POSITION IN A SYSTEM OF ETHNIC STRATIFICATION:

BLACKS, JEWS, KOREANS, AND THE AMERICAN DREAM ," by Jennifer Lee

Department of Sociology, University of California, Irvine. Chapter Five of Immigrant Dreams and American Realities: Blacks, Jews, and Koreans in Urban America, book manuscript under review with Harvard University Press] http://www.princeton.edu/~amimages/kim.html http://www.zmag.org/CrisesCurEvts/bohmerrace.htm http://www.ucpress.edu/books/pages/2290.html http://www.google.com/search?client=googlet&q=Immigrant%20Entrepreneurs%0D%0 AKoreans%20in%20Los%20Angeles%2C%201965-1982

Black-Korean community relations post Rodney King riot/insurrection. http://www.sbs.uab.edu/history/varticles/bluedrea.htm

Professor Kim's research focuses on race, immigration, and community activism in the context of rapidly transforming urban political economies. She has written about the political sources and implications of conflict between Black Americans and Korean Americans, as well as the changing role of racial ideology in American society. Her current research interests include the differential impact of global restructuring upon racial and ethnic groups, the cross-national analysis of Asian minorities, and the normative dimensions of the immigration debate. Professor Kim teaches courses on racial and ethnic politics, comparative urban political economy, popular protest, and political theory.

http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/MRC/AfricanAmVid.html

Another America. Both the riots in Los Angeles and the murder of an uncle at his store in Detroit forced the filmmaker to start a personal investigation to examine the relationships between the Korean-American and Afro-American communities. Through his camera and many personal interviews, Cho reveals a rarely seen portrait of life in the inner city and takes a hard look at his own uncle's murder, telling how this crime affected not only his family, but the entire city. 56 min. Video/C 4495

Representative Publications: "The Politics of Black-Korean Conflict: Black Power Protest and the Mobilization of Racial Community in New York City," (ed. Gerald Jaynes). Blacks, Immigration and Race Relations, Yale University Press, forthcoming. "Asian Americans: A Model Minority For Whom?" (eds. Adolph Reed, Jr. and Julian Bond). Westview Press, forthcoming.

http://aris.ss.uci.edu/pol/personnel/cjkim/cjkim.html


>
> : This happened when a cohort of Jewish small merchants faded out.

Black-Jewish relations. See Jonathan Kauffman, "Broken Alliance, " published in '88, reissed recently. http://www.jewishworldreview.com/cols/page071398.html Struggles in the Promised Land: Towards a History of Black-Jewish Relations in the United States Jack Salzman (Editor) Cornel West (Editor) And, the older, controversial work of Harold Cruse, "The Crisis of the Negro Intellectual, " 1967. If the UNC-Chapel Hill library has either bound volumes of Studies on the Left (1959-1967), see the debates between the editors and Cruse (and Robert F. Williams, see, on him, "Radio Free Dixie: Robert F. Williams and the Roots of Black Power," by Timothy B. Tyson). If that isn't available there find a copy of, "For A New America: Essays from Studies on the Left, " edited by David Eakins and James Weinstein, Random House/Vintage, 1970.


> This brings in other issues we weren't talking about. WHY, when
> Jewish merchants decided to sell out or fade out, were they
> replaced by Koreans INSTEAD OF BY people socially related to those
> who actually lived in the neighborhoods and patronized the stores??
> This question NEVER GETS ASKED even though it is THE ONLY IMPORTANT
> question in the whole debate.

William Julius Wilson, "When Work Disappears: The World of the New Urban Poor." The de-industrialization of the inner cites and the migration of the Black "Middle Class", left the core w/o a industrial w/c or a professional/managerial class. They moved to the 'burbs or exclusive enclaves like Cheviot Hills and Beverlywood. http://www.findarticles.com/cf_0/m1346/n1_v43/20179536/print.jhtml http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/6174/lament.html http://www.levity.com/markdery/ESCAPE/VELOCITY/author/davis.html (Mike Davis)

Despite the existence of federal laws and regulatory mechanisms to cambat red-lining and the exclusion and discriminatory practices of lenders (as well as the lack of banks in the urban cores, once I drove a zillion miles to find a bank in South Central near USC), the extension of credit to Black entrepeneurs still has a long way to go. Whatever the mixed results and appearance of corrupting co-optation between Jesse Jackson, Sr. and the Fortune 500 in his Wall Street Project. (see for some details the article in the latest issue of The Nation by Scott Sherman on Al Sharpton and Jesse http://www.thenation.com/doc.mhtml?i=20010416&s=sherman [and to beat a dead dog see, http://past.thenation.com/cgi-bin/framizer.cgi?url=http://past.thenation.com /issue/000703/0703sherman.shtml ] For critiques of "black capitalism" see, William Tabb, "The Myth of Black Capitalism, " Monthly Review Press, 1971. To return to the lack of credit ?, a friend from college worked as a S&L regulator for the feds during the second Clinton admin. Compared to Reagan, the stats showed much more lending. Partly due to community organizing, of coarse pressuring corporate liberals.


> : In the eighties and early nineties there were several incidents when
Korean
> : merchants and people of color, mostly African-american came into
conflict around
> : things that happened in the daily course of business.
>
> Most notoriously, a little old Korean lady 2nd-degree-murdered a
> 15-yr-old black girl (LaTasha Harlins) for slapping her and stealing
> a bottle of orange juice, and got off scot-free, with loud commendations
> by the relevant white California municipal judge and some surprising
> assistance from a well-connected black career politician or two.
>
> : Within a year there began to be people of color assisting the
> : Korean merchants, and almost every one I have ever seen has been
> : Mexican. They seem to be working extremely hard, look poor and
> : scruffy, etc. Probably must what George is describing.
>
> Close, I guess. We're not getting a lot of Hispanic convenience-
> store clerks but central North Carolina has recently been welcoming
> a lot of Hispanic women as fast-food workers and a lot of men in
> such occupations as construction-labor, landscaping,
> chicken-plucking, pickle-picking, tobacco-priming, etc. Durham
> county, home of Duke University, just became the first
> "all-minority" county (of 100) in North Carolina; recent Hispanic
> immigration has driven that county's white population down to 47%,
> according to the recent census. In rural neighboring Chatham
> County, David Duke himself last year held a rally asking the good
> white people there to solicit help from the INS in sending more of
> "these illegal immigrants" back home, lest the local culture become
> entirely diluted or polluted. There is as yet no political impact
> to this, though. The Hispanic immigrants are simply today's
> analogues of the ante-bellum slaves. The only political race they have
> figured in so far was one where a maverick Republican (what made
> her a maverick was that she was opposed to hog-farming corporations
> stinking up her district, while, as we all know, Republicans
> generally are IN FAVOR of the corporation treating the sycophantic
> community rough, and making'em like it, after all, they should be
> grateful for the jobs) said she was tired of her good white people
> being surrounded by "hogs & Hispanics". As a result of that, she,
> despite being the incumbent, lost her primary. Basically, here,
> Republicans are benefiting from the status quo and Democrats don't
> know how to speak Spanish. Black Democratic voters don't actually
> know what H1-B visas are, but if they knew, they wouldn't like it.
> This local political situation is going to get uglier before it
> gets prettier.
>
> The preceding is a personal opinion. Try not to post more than daily.
>
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