Possibly dumb question about socialization/sociability

Carrol Cox cbcox at ilstu.edu
Tue Apr 24 05:19:16 PDT 2001


Gordon Fitch wrote:
>
> > I assume if people have gone around saying things like
> "society creates the individual"

This way of putting it would in fact be a denial of a unity of society and the individual -- in other words, it is really only a way of denying while seeming to assert assert socialization. We have on the one hand "society" and on the other hand "individuals," and the former somehow creates the individuals. Weird. The best answer to your question (or at least the beginning of the best answer) is to note that the question implies its own answer in so far as it is a question that could only be asked within a complex or ensemble of social relations.

Society doesn't create us, and we have no existence prior to and independent of our social relations. So both statements, "humans create society" and "society creates individuls," are simply incoherent.

Rousseau, incidentally, argued that "in the beginning" individuals did only come together to mate. If you haven't read it you should get hold of _A Discourse on Inequality_. From what I know, however, social relations (or species that had no existence independently of their social relations) long pre-date homo sapiens: or to put it otherwise, human society is several million years older than humanity.

Carrol



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