>>> kenneth.mackendrick at utoronto.ca 08/13/01 09:34PM >>>
Dear Barbie,
Amazing, eh? We've been arguing for over a month now that arguments matter, and that social forms are reproduced communicatively.
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CB: OK, for the sake of argument, lets accept the convincing success of your argument, that is you have succeeded ( arguendo) in persuading me by argument that social forms are reproduced communicatively.
How does that truth help us to overthrow capitalism and win socialism ?
Also, why did Habermas support NATO in the war on Yugoslavia ?
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And all we're getting in return is arguments that arguments don't matter, and communications that society isn't reproduced communicatively.
Since this has gone in circles, now we're into the distinction between ideology and technology, and theory and practice, and normative and objective.
Isn't it ironic? that these are the first issues that Habermas dealt with in 1963 (Between Philosophy and Science: Marxism as Critique and Dogma, Reason, Decision), 1964 (The Analytical Theory of Science and Dialectics and A Positivistically Bisected Rationalism) and 1965 (Knowledge and Human Interests).
ken
See Theory and Practice (trans. 1973) See The Positivist Dispute in German Sociology (trans. 1976). See Knowledge and Human Interests (trans. 1971).