Dems Fold on Ashcroft

Nathan Newman nathan at newman.org
Mon Dec 10 12:34:10 PST 2001


----- Original Message ----- From: Dennis


>I mean, barring full scale abuse of the Patriot Act (abuse that would humble even its staunchest >supporters), I really don't see how it will be repealed.

That's the point- the sunset provision means we don't have to get it repealed, we just have to block its being passed again. The difference is this- repeal requires winning in the House, have 60 votes in the Senate, and overcoming a possible veto (meaning two-thirds vote required).

Blocking passage means winning in one of those three venues-- and requires only 40 Senate votes.

I know prosaic discussions about concrete margins of passage is treated as a distraction from the serious political discussion, but it's what is the difference between passage and on-passage of legislation.

BTW on a tangentially related issue, I will note that the Bankruptcy Bill is still not law because Senate Dems have refused to approve a compromise with the House. We'll see what happens, but post-S11 economic times may derail the whole thing. But the point is that procedure and party control does matter-- folks would already be being hit with the damn thing if Jeffords hadn't jumped and handed control of conference appointments to Dashcle.

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