--- Ian Murray <seamus2001 at attbi.com> wrote:
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Peter K." <peterk at enteract.com>
> To: <lbo-talk at lists.panix.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 6:00 PM
> Subject: interview with Ali
>
>
> > http://www.progressive.org/0901/intv0102.html
> >
> > No not Muhammad, Tariq. He seems to agree
> > with all you ultras out there. He says about
> > the War on Al Queda,
> >
> > "It was essentially a crude war of revenge
> designed largely to
> > appease the U.S. public. In Canada in
> mid-November, I was
> > debating Charles Krauthammer, and I said it was a
> war of revenge
> > and he said, "Yeah, it was, so what?" The more
> hardline people,
> > who are also more realistic, just accept this."
>
> ==============
>
> Krauthammer's & Co. amoralist approach to
> international relations just
> goes to show that the Bushies use of moral rhetoric
> is a smokescreen;
> Machiavelli and Hobbes are alive and well and
> popping Viagra inside
> the Beltway. They can't deal with the fact that
> their amoralism is
> contagious and that others would act in ways
> consistent with an amoral
> outlook. Selective moralism is even more problematic
> than Max'
> 'selective pacifism.' Sooner or later the
> Weberian/State's monopoly on
> violence assertion was going to get a big kick in
> the teeth by
> somebody and we may just be at the beginning of a
> new era of
> non-state/state violence; asymmetric warfare is
> young but it's
> potential market is huge given the technological
> innovations in the
> pipeline that can be used for nasty purposes.
>
>
>
>
>
> > I think they did a good job of destroying Al Queda
> and the proof
> > is in the
> > pudding. There hasn't been a terrorist attack
> since the 9.11
> > (knock on wood).
> >
> > Peter
>
> ============
> Um, what about the recent attack on the Indian
> parliament and the
> amassing of troops along the Pakistan-India border?
> Start knocking,
> you need to drop the isolationism you claim other US
> citizens
> harbor....
>
> Ian
>
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