>
> what's the genealogy of the anti-HIV line? and the political economy of it?
> i've never understood how it survived.
Could it possibly be that many people, whatever their political faults and weaknesses, simply see that there are very serious problems with the mainstream AIDS paradigm and that it needs to be rethought? Could it be that at least some of these people are not just simpletons and dupes? Jesus, just because a lot of these folks are not serious lefties does not mean they are totally incapable of thinking for themselves...
Chris
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-lbo-talk at lists.panix.com
> [mailto:owner-lbo-talk at lists.panix.com]On Behalf Of Michael Pugliese
> Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 9:48 AM
> To: lbo
> Subject: Re: Null on AIDS
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Adam from San Francisco <sf_adam at rocketmail.com>
> To: Michael Pugliese <debsian at pacbell.net>
> Date: Monday, January 22, 2001 9:21 PM
> Subject: Re: Null on AIDS
>
>
> >A few notes from a bitter queen. AR
> >
> >
> >--- Michael Pugliese <debsian at pacbell.net> wrote:
> >> -----------------------------
> >>
> >> Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 14:28:04 -0500
> >> From: Doug Henwood <dhenwood at panix.com>
> >> Subject: Null on AIDS
> >>
> >> Gary Null is a massively popular programmer on WBAI.
> >> He does
> >> "alternative" health stuff. He doesn't believe HIV
> >> causes AIDS. What
> >> does? Among other things, "fear," AIDS drugs, and a
> >> bad lifestyle.
> >
> >AIDS drugs have prolonged and saved millions of lives.
> > This is anti-science, puffy new age crap. Behind it
> >is usually a heaping dose of homobigotry. The defacto
> >message is usually, "If these guys liked New Age music
> >instead of disco, they wouldn't have caused their own
> >deaths." I consider most of this middle class
> >elitism. I am quite bitter about this line. It is
> >frankly why I am a new age refugee.
> >
> >
> >> Null is a bete noire of mine, so if anyone who knew
> >> the science could
> >> take a look at this, I'd be grateful. Here are some
> >> excerpts
> >> <http://www.garynull.com/Documents/aids.htm>:
> >>
> >> >Lifestyle. Remember the swashbuckling actor Errol
> >> Flynn? As a young
> >> >man, he charmed audiences as Robin Hood and Captain
> >> Blood. But by
> >> >the time the actor had died on his fiftieth
> >> birthday, he was so
> >> >burnt out from a fast life of drugs and heavy
> >> drinkingthat his
> >> >doctors, upon autopsy, were amazed that he had
> >> remained alive for
> >> >the last five years of his life. Triple the speed
> >> of Flynn's
> >> >lifestyle, and you speed up the process of
> >> self-destruction.
> >
> >Big generalizations here. I believed these too until
> >gay buddhist low key types started dying and in big
> >numbers. AIDS isn't just partyers disease, although
> >many in the hard partying scene were amongst the first
> >to contract AIDS.
> >
> >> >
> >> >Such is the case with AIDS, which many attribute to
> >> a worn down,
> >> >stressed out immune system caused by drug abuse and
> >> a super fast
> >> >lifestyle. Initially, AIDS was detected in
> >> homosexual men who were
> >> >frequenting bars and bath houses and having
> >> multiple sexual partners
> >> >a night. They were taking massive amounts of
> >> antibiotics as a
> >> >prophylactic against syphilis, and repeatedly
> >> coming down with
> >> >hepatitis and parasitic infections. They drank,
> >> smoked, ate poorly,
> >> >and deprived themselves of sleep. Recreational
> >> drugs, such as
> >> >cocaine, heroine, Ecstasy, and nitrite inhalants
> >> were commonplace.
> >
> >Ecstasy wasn't commonplace in the late 70s, and heroin
> >use wasn't all that common in gay scenes. Try speed
> >and the writer might have something to talk about.
> >This writer hasn't done their homework.
> >
> >Adam
> >
> >=====
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> >Adam from San Francisco!
> >
> >
> >
> >
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