Nathan Newman nathan at newman.org http://www.nathannewman.org ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Metz" <Socialist-Trekkie at excite.com> To: "Jeremy Miller" <democratic-socialist at usa.net>; <DavidMcR at aol.com>; <asdnet at igc.topica.com>; <lbo-Talk at lists.panix.com>; <socialistsunmoderated at pinko.net>; <asdnet at igc.topica.com>; <lbo-Talk at lists.panix.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2001 8:42 PM Subject: RE: [ASDnet] [SOCUNMOD] You're a Shachtmanite Charlie Brown.
Comrades,
I hoped it comforting for you to know that that test that I created isn't perfect. I created mainly to help new leftists to get a general idea and also to direct them to the Red Encyclopedia.
Mine was pretty much correct (Democratic Marxist, Progressive, etc.), but I *was* surprised to see how low down on the list Trotskyist was.
Solidarity,
John
On 10 Jul 2001 22:28:47 EDT, Jeremy Miller wrote:
Aaaaaaggghh! What the hell? I don't even get to be a Social Democrat?
Nooooooooooo, I have to be a "Progressive" and a "Libertarian Socialist" and a
"Shactmanite." Don't feel too bad Dave at least on yours you came out more of
a Democratic Socialist than a Shachtmanite! I did beat you out in the
Democratic Marxist catagory though! heh heh. I got to admit I think my results
are somewhat accurate from 4 on down (fit in 1-3 between 6 and 7) though I
wish Castro would have came in above Lenin-Trotsky with Stalin/Mao at the
bottom where they belong.
1. Progressive Hey!
2. Libertarian Socialist
3. Shactmanite
4. Social Democrat
5. Democratic Socialist
6. Democratic Marxist
7. Christian Socialist
8. Anarchist
9. Bookchinite
10. DeLeonist
11. Leninist-Trotskyist
12. Kimist
13. Stalinist/Maoist
14. Castroist
DavidMcR at aol.com wrote:
> Following the posting from Nathan, and at 2 a.m. with much left todo if I'm
> to leave at 2:30 p.m. and sleep and pack, etc. between now and then, of
> course I made time for this "essential". Probably because of my nonviolence,
> I find that while I have strong sympathies for Castro's (or the Cuban's)
> Cuba, that comes last. And while I consider myself a democratic marxist,
that
> comes ninth.
>
> It seems I am not a socialist at all. My ranking:
>
> 1. Progressive
> 2. Democratic Socialist
> 3. Libertarian Socialist
> 4. Social Democrat
> 5. Bookchinite (and I've never read the man!)
> 6. Shachtmanite (!) why is this #6, and my sympathy for much of Lenin's work
> puts him way down the list? What sins did I commit in my previous lives that
> Max would rate #6?
> 7. Christian Socialist. Ok, I'm not a Christian, but I was and think the
> Gospels are cool
> 8. Anarchist
> 9. Democratic Marxist (hey, that should be my #1)
> 10. DeLeonist (never read him)
> 11. Stalinist/Maoist
> 12. Leninist/Trotskyist
> 13. Castroist
>
> That's not MY listing, that is the computerized machine talking, and as we
> all know, computers cannot make a mistake. Now to pack.
>
> David McReynolds
>
> << Subj: [ASDnet] What Kind of Socialist Are You? Take the Test
> Date: 7/9/01 11:41:19 AM Eastern Daylight Time
> From: nathan at newman.org (Nathan Newman)
> Reply-to: asdnet at igc.topica.com
> To: lbo-Talk at Lists.Panix.Com, asdnet at igc.topica.com
>
> Courtesy of what looks like Chicago-affiliated members of the Socialist
> Party USA is a fun little web test that decides whether your politics are
> socialism a la Social Democrats USA or Kim Il Sung. Go to:
> http://www.selectsmart.com/FREE/select.php3?client=mvemjsunp
>
> There are some good catalogues of the various left factions at its Red
> Encyclopedia at http://www.geocities.com/redencyclopedia/index.htm
>
> Nathan Newman
> nathan at newman.org >>
>
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