I'd also like to say the oppression of Palestinians is plenty bad, but it has yet to reach "a par with what Jews themselves had experienced."
mbs
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mbs says: Fact is that zionism was nothing before Hitler. Hitler, not Herzl, made zionism. I've made too much of the diverse intellectual and cultural roots. The main motive was not colonialism or the exaltation of a bloodline, but survival.
reply: (right, so the Jews should have taken Germany.) Max--which one of the following are you claiming led to the dispossession of the Palestinian homeland, denial of their existence and subjection to acts of terror on par with what Jews themselves had experienced?:
1) that it was the genuine *belief* of Jews and/or non-Jews that the Jewish people would not survive
2) that the Jewish people in fact would not have survived
3) that the claim that the Jewish people would not survive was used to convince Jews and/or non-Jews of the necessity of that strategy
mbf