or
two separate but 'linked' undemocratic religious or semi-religious states: Israel and Palestine.
or
two separate but 'linked' states: a racist, religious, undemocratic Israel and a nonracist, nonsexist democratic Palestine.
Shahak, Chomsky, Said, and Finkelstein are great, but don't forget Moshe Menuhin (father of Yehudi Menuhin), Ibrahim Abu-Lughod, Bowersock, Haddad, Abu-Ghazaleh, Bulliet, Frangi, El-Kodsy (Amin), Aruri, Arie Bober, etc.
-----Original Message----- From: C. G. Estabrook [mailto:galliher at alexia.lis.uiuc.edu] Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2001 3:06 PM To: lbo-talk at lists.panix.com Subject: Re: "Zionism"
Of course there are preferences for religious groups (e.g., yeshiva students) but much more important are the privileges for one racial group, the majority of whom are not religious. As the late Israel Shahak was wont to point out, Israel within the Green Line is a racist state, with laws similar to those of apartheid South Africa: e.g., racial identity cards must be carried, no intermarriage is allowed with the dominant racial group, and none but members of that group can own land in more than 93% of the national territory. --CGE
On Wed, 18 Jul 2001, Michael Perelman wrote:
> The first step would be to make it a secular state with no preferences
for
> religious groups.
>
> On Wed, Jul 18, 2001 at 07:34:09AM -0700, Brad DeLong wrote:
> > So it seems that lots of people have good ideas as to how
> > Palestinians are to achieve their rights: Israel should simply
> > withdraw behind the 1967 border. (But why not the 1947? Or the 1907?
> > Or the 1867?)
> >
> > But there is another set of rights at issue here. Presumably
Israelis
> > have a right to live in peace behind secure borders. Does anyone
have
> > a clue as to how that is to be accomplished? Or is the long-term
plan
> > for everyone now in Israel to move to Greater New York?
> >
> >
> > Brad DeLong
>
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