Protester Shot in Head, Run Over in Genoa

[Joe R. Golowka]

From: "Wojtek Sokolowski" <sokol at jhu.edu>
> At 12:54 PM 7/23/01 -0400, Todd A. wrote, inter alia:
> >not sarcasm)?  I personally doubt the effectiveness of protest of any
vein,
> >especially without good politics to back it up, as Yoshie mentioned.  I
>
>
> Yep. I cannot think of a single historical instance of a government, let
> alone an economic system, being abolished by a protest / revolution from
> below.

Um, Spain 1936.  France 1793.


> Governments are toppled by other governments, while protesters
> /revolutionaries, like hyenas, move in only after the lions did the
> killing.  Only in romantic mythologies a la Star Wars, the Trots, or the
> militias - a bunch of hicks with sticks and guns can defeat the Evil
Empire.

Isn't that exactly what Mao did?  There are many National Liberation
movements which did the above - the United States (1776), Vietnam, etc.
Let's not forget barbarians invading the Roman Empire.


> I also think that you are right on the target when you say that what
> average folk really want is a peaceful life without being harassed by
> anyone else.

Which is something that cannot be provided (except for a small minority)
under capitalism and the state.

Joe