patriarchy redux?

Joanna Sheldon cjs10 at cornell.edu
Sun Jun 3 13:37:51 PDT 2001


Then again there's the Charles x Diana / Camilla phenomenon, which has a long history.

cheers, Joanna S

At 14:28 03-06-01, you wrote:


>On Thu, 31 May 2001, Christopher Rhoades Dÿkema wrote:
>
> > > > Imagine marrying the first person you had sex with. What a riot that
> > > > would be . . .
> > >
> > > Freud makes a lot more sense when you realize he was describing a world
> > > just like that. Acting out your feelings towards your parents big time.
> > > And then stuck in that rut forever.
> > >
> > Actually young bourgeois men had sex with women of other classes before
> > marriage to women of their own class who were sexually inexperienced.
>
>Sex, yes. But relationships, mainly no, precisely because of the class
>factor you mentioned. And that's key for the acting out part. It was in
>fact a common affliction among Freud's male patients that they could make
>it fine with a prostitute or serving girl, but respectable women reminded
>them of their mothers. So as far as the psycho-drama was concerned, the
>boys were mostly still virgins too when they got married. And still
>mostly completely ignorant where it counted.
>
>Michael
>
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