patriarchy redux?

[Christopher Rhoades Dÿkema]

Schnitzler was indeed an MD, but was a psychiatrist. Freud is supposed to have said
he never wanted to meet Schnitzler because he feared he would be too much like
himself. I don't think I've read the original of the movie, but I have certainly
read DER REIGEN, filmed years ago in French also, and, yes, the mixing of classes
is what interested him, except that it a sexual mixing in each case. The whole play
is about this one fucks that one fucks that one fucks that one fucks that one fucks
that one fucks that one fucks that one fucks that one fucks this one. I.E. the
first one. As in all Schnitzler's works, the dialog is very sensitive, and
extremely amusing.

Christopher Rhoades Dÿkema

Michael Perelman wrote:


> Schnitzler's original should still be fun, at least as I recall it.  I don't
> think that sex was a big deal for him.  He was an MD.  I thought that the
> interplay between the classes was central.
>
> The movie was tedious.
>
> Yoshie Furuhashi wrote:
>
> > >From: Michael Pollak (mpollak at panix.com)
> > >Date: Sun Jun 03 2001 - 00:28:54 EDT
> > >
> > >On Thu, 31 May 2001, Christopher Rhoades Dÿkema wrote:
> > >
> > >>  > > Imagine marrying the first person you had sex with. What a riot that
> > >>  > > would be . . .
> > >>  >
> > >>  > Freud makes a lot more sense when you realize he was describing a world
> > >>  > just like that. Acting out your feelings towards your parents big time.
> > >>  > And then stuck in that rut forever.
> > >>  >
> > >>  Actually young bourgeois men had sex with women of other classes before
> > >>  marriage to women of their own class who were sexually inexperienced.
> > >
> > >Sex, yes. But relationships, mainly no, precisely because of the class
> > >factor you mentioned. And that's key for the acting out part. It was in
> > >fact a common affliction among Freud's male patients that they could make
> > >it fine with a prostitute or serving girl, but respectable women reminded
> > >them of their mothers. So as far as the psycho-drama was concerned, the
> > >boys were mostly still virgins too when they got married. And still
> > >mostly completely ignorant where it counted.
> > >
> > >Michael
> > >
> > >__________________________________________________________________________
> > >Michael Pollak................New York City..............mpollak at panix.com
> >
> > While sexism continues to plague us, at least we've left Freud's
> > Vienna behind.  Kubrick's _Eyes Wide Shut_ tanked, probably because
> > the sexual hang-up of the petit-bourgeois man in the world of Arthur
> > Schnitzler didn't strike many as compelling.
> >
> > Today's post-nuclear sexual fantasy revolves around homophobia &
> > pedophilia -- hence the popularity of _American Beauty_ for instance.
> >
> > Yoshie
>
> --
>
> Michael Perelman
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