>>> furuhashi.1 at osu.edu 06/04/01 06:33PM >>>
>Patrick Bond, you around?
>
>I saw you saying elsewhere that Hardt & Negri underestimate the
>progressive potential of the nation-state. Has the rather bad
>experience of the ANC in South Africa caused you to rethink this
>position? I see at least two specific problems of broader
>theoretical/strategic interest: 1) a poor, lightly industrialized
>country doesn't have much scope to act on its own, leaving it
>extremely vulnerable to external pressure, and the temptations of
>World Bank loans; and 2) the rhetoric of nationalism can calm
>popular aspirations for more substantive radical change by emotional
>appeals to independence, sovereignty, national pride, etc., which
>make excellent cover for a sellout.
>
>Doesn't the fact that one of the most admirable national
>revolutionary movements in modern times, the ANC, ended up as loyal
>servants of capital, give you pause?
>
>Doug
What for socialists is the practical alternative to aiming for state power, in cooperation with other socialists trying to do the same elsewhere? A town meeting? A U.N. protectorate? A zone of autonomy a la EZLN or FARC? Petition the U.S. government or the European Union to officially incorporate your nation as part of the Empire, aspiring to the status of Puerto Rico or Turkey?
Yoshie
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CB: What about the struggle continues, victory is certain ? The revolution is not over yet. Amandla.