BK on Identity

[Yoshie Furuhashi]

>Charles Brown wrote:
>
>>  >>> dhenwood at panix.com 03/03/01 08:20PM >>>
>>Carl Remick wrote:
>>
>>>Loss of vision is surely a chief factor in the such-as-it-is quality
>>>of the left today.
>>
>>I agree with this. I think the best way to fight working class racism
>>is by appeals to universality and justice, emotional appeals to human
>>solidarity, and not by appeals to some vague unprovable long-term
>>material self-interest.
>>
>>(((((((((((
>>
>>CB: Why not appeal to both ?
>
>Because the case for material self-interest is at best long term, 
>and not really proved. Yoshie seems to think it's proved, but as far 
>as I can tell she's just asserting that and citing theory to back up 
>the case.
>
>Doug

What, in your opinion, would be proof positive of the proposition 
that white workers actually *lose* in real wages and social programs 
by *gaining* more relative advantages over black & other 
discriminated-against workers?  And what's your evidence against it?

Yoshie