>I guess the difference is that in calling something hypocritical one is 
>seeking to discredit the contradictory words and deeds. Here I am seeking 
>to preserve the historical sense of connection to past generations 
>expressed in patriotism ; and transfer that sense of historical connection 
>to , well, anti-patriotism of a sort, that is the discrediting of  the 
>conduct of the past generations. To the patriot I say, you are correct you 
>are connected to past generations of Americans, but you have to take the 
>debt along with the credit you own/inherit from that connection. Own up to 
>the debt as you own up to the credit.
i hear ya Chaz baby! The Souls of Black Folks!!! :)
i guess it was the word patriotism that tripped you up, mat? or do you really think everything about the western tradition is bad?
kelley