"Violence" as a Useless Category, was Re: Just Wars

Ian Murray seamus2001 at home.com
Sat May 12 17:02:22 PDT 2001


----- Original Message ----- From: "Carrol Cox" <cbcox at ilstu.edu> To: <lbo-talk at lists.panix.com> Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2001 4:51 PM Subject: "Violence" as a Useless Category, was Re: Just Wars


>
>
> Ian Murray wrote:
> >
> > Of course
> > the standards change; they are changed by people. The problem is there has been
no
> > "moral" "progress", by that I mean, minimally, a significant diminution of
violence
> > through historical time. Non-violence is what I would regard as an historically
> > "determined" metahistorical norm that should be striven for at all times and
places.
>
> Violence (and hence non-violence) does not exist; it is a classification
> like "fish" used to describe sharks, whales, and tadpoles. "True"
> enough, but not useful for political or historical analysis.
>
> Carrol
=============== Having problems with the meanings of nominalism again Carroll :-)?

Ian



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