[Fwd: CHILD POVERTY RATES REFLECT FAMILY STRUCTURE, NOTRACE,ANALYSISSHOWS -5/01]

Michael McIntyre mmcintyr at wppost.depaul.edu
Wed May 30 11:26:48 PDT 2001


I'm too damned old to be "PC". I still remember when it was a term we used to send one another up. As it stands, though, the straightforward interpretation of the Heritage data is that time spent receiving welfare is an INDEX of poverty, not a CAUSE of poverty. If you want to spin some complex causal story about possible feedback loops, then I'll entertain that as a hypothesis. And then I'll wait for you to quote Rousseau:

"J'ai bien plus que les preuves; j'ai l'evidence."

L'evidence - Heritage n'en a pas.

Michael McIntyre


>>> sokol at jhu.edu 05/30/01 01:08PM >>>
At 10:44 AM 5/30/01 -0500, Michael McIntyre wrote:
>Using the term loosely! Look at the link and you find that the variable
that outweighs all others in "producing child poverty" is "amount of time spent on welfare." And you thought all this time that people went on welfare because they were poor! Au contraire, mes amis! Welfare causes poverty! The data prove it! Heritage dixit.

Heritage's political agenda aside, the relationship between 'amount of time spent on welfare' and 'child poverty' is not necessarily spurious - IF, the former is a proxy for the duration of living in poverty. People with long history of poverty are less likely to teach their young what it takes to be admitted to the middle class: the importance of formal education, and the accumulation of 'social capital' (i.e. learning the right mode of speach, dress code, and manners, getting to know the right people, etc.

Lest the pc crowd on this list starts screaming "culture of poverty" - this argument does not have to lead to the "family values" and "personal responsibility" mantra. It can be used to argue for an effective public education system that can overcome the shortcomings of nuclear families (whatever their roots) by teaching the disadvantaged kids the skills that their nuclear parents cannot.

It would be a very clever thing to use the Heritage's own findings to that end, no? As an ancient Sufi proverb has it, "a fool tries to convince me with his arguments, a sage - with my own."

wojtek



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