|| -----Original Message-----
|| From: owner-lbo-talk at lists.panix.com
|| [mailto:owner-lbo-talk at lists.panix.com]On Behalf Of Nathan Newman
|| ----- Original Message -----
|| From: "Hakki Alacakaptan" <nucleus at superonline.com>
||
|| >I buy Art's story that blacks feel like the rest of the worlds'
|| dispossessed
|| >about S11, which can't be said about any other group. As
|| blacks seem to be
|| >the only radical force left at a time when the US is in danger
|| of turning
|| >fascist - for real, this time - is anyone in the left doing anything to
|| >awaken the political consciousness that is buried under their
|| nihilistic
|| >hatred?
||
|| Respectfully, there are so many wrong-headed things packed into that
|| paragraph, from the homogenization of blacks into a monolithic "force"
|| (undivided by class or gender), the assumption that other people need to
|| "awaken" their consciousness (when it's pretty clear folks know what's
|| wrong, if not as clear what to do about it), the stereotype of
|| "nihilistic"
|| hatred (as opposed to a quite wide range of approaches to being pissed
|| off), and the idea that no other group in the US (say Arab Americans for
|| example and even some poor whites) has any identify with the world's
|| dispossed against global corporate power.
As I said at the outset, what I say about race in the US may very well be heavily infected with foot-in-mouth. I'm no expert. But the depth and duration of blacks' grievances - an of course I mean "bad" blacks, those who didn't "be all that they could be" (intended) - surely puts them apart as a radical force. I just wanted to express my puzzlement that this whole question is never mentioned like it's a shameful family secret or something.
||
|| And describing the US turning towards fascism (without going
|| into another
|| LBO round of definitions) in the present circumstances is
|| pushing the term
|| pretty hard.
I know what I'm talking about there, Nathan. We can discuss definitions till hell freezes over but as a working concept, fascism fits the current social syndrome.
Hakki