Wouldn't ya like to be a Stalinist, too? (was: Sedition Act)

Hakki Alacakaptan nucleus at superonline.com
Sun Nov 11 11:30:28 PST 2001


West of the Urals and the Turkish border, it's pretty hard to find any non-pejorative Stalinism. If you accept "real socialism" as a polite way of saying Stalinism there's a "Real Socialism" page at www.real-socialism.org.uk (West Lotharian Socialist Discussion List) but apparently the owner(s) aren't aware of what the term means. No mention of "socialism in one country (or county)" and they're anti-Lenin too. The page has this GIF animation of a stick guy running on a spinning globe and the caption reads "Our time to run the world".

I guess Chris could provide some echt Stalinist memorabilia (any of that "Stalin's breath" perfume left?) that might fit the bill.

Turkey, however, is like a wildlife preserve for stalinists, so you still have PKK, Kurtulus, DHKPC, and other alphabet soup groups berating revisionism and swearing to fight for the true faith till the bitter end - er, till the total victory of the working class, that is. The Kurtulus page (http://www.kurtuluscephesi.com/eris/revizyon4b.html) has a Dante quote at the end: "Segui il tuo corso, e lascia dir la genti !" Follow your path, and let them talk! Unfortunately, they're not joking.

Hakki Alacakaptan

|| -----Original Message-----

|| From: owner-lbo-talk at lists.panix.com

|| [mailto:owner-lbo-talk at lists.panix.com]On Behalf Of Doug Henwood

|| Sent: 11 Kasým 2001 Pazar 20:24

|| To: lbo-talk at lists.panix.com

|| Subject: Re: Wouldn't ya like to be a Stalinist, too? (was:

|| Sedition Act)

||

||

|| Kelley wrote:

||

|| >avoiding ancient list debates and standoffs, could someone explain

|| >to me what it means to say "i'm a stalinist" or "she's a stalinist"?

|| >is there a, uh, non-pejorative sense of the term?

||

|| I just google'd the name "Adolfo Oleachea" - the Peruvian aristocrat

|| now living in London exile who does PR for Shining Path, and who is

|| fond of invoking things like the need for an "iron broom" - and came

|| up nearly empty. Adolfo was a real charmer on the early Spoons

|| Marxism lists. A search for one of his hangouts, the Stalin Society

|| in London, also came up fairly empty. I did come across this obit

|| delivered to the Stalin Society for a longtime member (who was also

|| secretary of the Albania Society for 30 years). So here's a taste of

|| non-pejorative Stalinism for you:

|| <http://www.lalkar.demon.co.uk/issues/contents/may2001/bb.htm>.

||

|| Doug



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