How to demonstrate your opponent's point

jeffrey fisher jfisher at igc.org
Fri Nov 16 08:18:32 PST 2001


i guess i just think bryan was asking some questions in good faith. it's not necessary to light into him to show that there were things he could have done that might have answered his own questions. joe obviously did that work. if he thought the post was so idiotic, why didn't he just ignore it? or tell bryan what to do? if he's going to do that work, then do it in like good faith rather than using it as a stick to beat bryan over the head with, which, as it was, makes it seem to me rather as if he did the work just to have the stick. that's what gets me.

i just think if you're going to have an open community like this, there are more important things for people to get pissed off and aggressive about. and given how combative the list already is (which is fine, in principle--i've participated in some of those fights), maybe opportunities to help each other out rather than berate each other should be taken as such instead of as yet more opportunities to berate each other. if bryan were sending email after email to the list asking the same questions with the same answers, that would be one thing. he wasn't. in fact, he's been quite helpful in the past.

whatever. i don't want to start fighting about *this*. i'm done.

j

On Friday, November 16, 2001, at 10:04 AM, Kelley wrote:


> At 09:38 AM 11/16/01 -0600, jeffrey fisher wrote:
>
>> not much to add to this, really.
>>
>> j
>
>
> i believe joe had some important points, is that why you snipped them
> out? he was pointing out that bryan seemed to be forwarding what looked
> like FUD (something that plays onpeople's fear, uncertainty, and doubt).
>
> why you think those points are idiotic needs to be demonstrated, as
> does the implication that joe is an idiot.
>
>
> kelley
>
>



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