honestly, i think y'all are completely missing the point, but obviously, it's just me. let's not waste any more of our time.
j
On Friday, November 16, 2001, at 12:15 PM, Kelley wrote:
> At 09:38 AM 11/16/01 -0600, jeffrey fisher wrote:
>> i guess i just think bryan was asking some questions in good faith.
>
> firstly, the subject line said, "Activist Curtailed in the US..." not
> "Activists Curtailed in the US...?" there wasn't one single question
> mark in bryan's post, let alone a sentence that was a question that
> lacked a question mark due to typo.
>
> instead, there was a comment, "if this is true...". bryan did not
> appear to be asking for anyone's help for anything, just distributing
> information.
>
> then he mentioned that IMC-Israel is on a US server but now he wasn't
> so sure that was a good idea. in other words, he seemed inclined to
> believe that IMCisrael might be in trouble _because_ it was on a
> (fascistleaning?) US server.
>
> thus far, there seems to be no evidence that MER was "suspended" for
> the reasons the mail implies, does there. is it a good idea to spread
> rumors around that suggest that the site is down b/c of pressure form
> the US authorities?
>
>> it's not necessary to light into him to show that there were things he
>> could have done that might have answered his own questions. joe
>> obviously did that work.
>
> joe didn't light into bryan. joe pointed out that mer.org wasn't even
> the right address. i don't know what bryan knows, but he must know ppl
> from indymedia who know just as much as joe does about how to tell if
> someone's still online or not. hell, i don't know as much as joe, a
> sysadmin for years, but _I_ know how to find out that kind of
> information. and _I_ knew before i had a job that required that i learn
> how.
>
>> if he thought the post was so idiotic, why didn't he just
>> ignore it?
>
> why encourage the dissemination of FUD? at times like this? doug
> already asked that people stop forwarding unsubstantiated rumors.
>
>> or tell bryan what to do? if he's going to do that work, then
>> do it in like good faith rather than using it as a stick to beat bryan
>> over the head with, which, as it was, makes it seem to me rather as if
>
>
> there was no stick. it was simply a heads up. mer.org isn't even the
> right address, said joe, so why should i take this note seriously?
>
>
>
>> he did the work just to have the stick. that's what gets me.
>> i just think if you're going to have an open community like this, there
>> are more important things for people to get pissed off and aggressive
>> about.
>
>
> i think it's pretty important that the left doesn't encourage the
> spread of fud--like the CNN is using old footage thing. it makes us
> look like freaked out idiots.
>
> kelley
>