Crime not War (Re: Arguments for ground war - forget it)

[Justin Schwartz]

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>  || I don't get your point. So we live in a lawless world, there's no 
>point
>  || talking about law? We also live in a world without justice. Is there 
>no
>  || point in talking about justice? In the name of what do you
>  || decty lawlessness
>  || and injustice, then?
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>  || jks
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>International law is now a _negative_ concept - something that should be,
>that once was, but no longer exists. We can no longer  speak of breaches of
>sovereignty, of crimes against humanity, etc., _as legal concepts_ after 
>S11
>because the legal framework has been subverted.

Disabused innocence here. The international arena has always been anarchic. 
There never was a good old days when international law was happily followed 
or the great powers were good guys.

We can speak in moral terms,
>of course, but our discourse will be negative, for the concepts we use are
>no longer institutional.

What does that mean?

We should take care that any crimes we impute on a
>state from now on should not be understood as crimes in the legal sense, 
>for
>when top cop is the biggest criminal, the definition of crime collapses.
>

Then there never were any international crimes.

I find this discussion uninteresting. Let's move on

jks

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