On Selective Pacifism & other Oddities

[Kelley]

At 11:33 AM 11/29/01 -0500, brettk at unicacorp.com wrote:
>These arguments are advanced as support for a larger point, that the
>war is unjustified.  As Justin said, the Afghan war does not meet the
>standards of just war theory, or the standards laid out by the UN, namely
>self-defence.

then worries about innocents dying  shouldn't be raised, and they 
especially shouldn't be raised against your opponent in an argument.

so, right here in this exchange, there is MP's response, the concern about 
innocent civilians in Afghanistan.

don't get me wrong, it's what sickens me about the whole thing, too, but 
then i haven't been throwing it in doug's or max's or brad's face as an 
argument against their positions. and, i have an entirely different 
approach to this whole thing anyway: terrorism isn't something that we can 
deal with via the war machine OR the US legal machine.

kelley

 From the YeahSureRightFW Dept:
"If young women go for older men and vice-versa, who cares? The problem is 
the asymmetries in wealth and power between individuals which make one 
person more dependent on/vulnerable to the other, usually the woman.
If we could eliminate class, innumerable social problems would be solved
virtually overnight."

   --Brett Knowlton