>-----Original Message-----
>From: Carrol Cox <cbcox at ilstu.edu>
>
>
> >There is absolutely nothing, nothing whatever, that we can do now that
> >will have any effect on U.S. government actions within the next 12
> >months or so. This is axiomatic and other assumptions can merely be
> >ignorned as childishness.
>
>I understand where this comes from, Carrol, I think, but I also think it
>goes way too far.
what carrol doesn't get is that it's quite possible to protest as much as possible and try as best we can to reach a wider audience AND think long term.
whining that went on here about using the flag and other symbols that show that protesting is NOT anti-american is no different than whining about SUVs.
and no one, of course, got bent out of shape at the suggestion that we should call on former members of the military to protest. wrapping yourself in the bitterness and anger of veterans who are nearly unassailable isn't different than using the flag.
kelley