Saddam, diabolical genius (was: Re: Jewish Collegians Prepare to Defend Israel on the Campuses)

[Yoshie Furuhashi]

>>In retrospect, you _did_ support the military victory of the Soviet 
>>Union over Nazi Germany, right?   Remember, the Stalin regime was 
>>responsible for the deaths of more people than the Nazis, and in 
>>the liberal calculus, was just as "diabolical" - if not more so, 
>>since Stalin met with greater success - then Hitler.
>
>If I understand you, you are saying that Roosevelt and Churchill 
>chose the wrong side when they decided to ally with Stalin against 
>Hitler, rather than with Hitler against Stalin--that the world would 
>have been a better place than it actually was if the Nazi tyranny 
>had ruled Europe for, say, fifty years after 1945.
>
>I think that you are completely wrong. The Nazi death count is less 
>than the Stalinist death count (if it is: it is not clear to me that 
>it is) because the Nazis were *stopped*. Remember: the Nazis 
>envisioned the demographic replacement of the peoples of Belarus and 
>Ukraine by ethnic Germans--that's 50 million shot, gassed, starved, 
>whatever right there. Recall that of the 3.5 million or so Russians 
>who fell into Nazi hands as POWs in 1941, barely a quarter were 
>alive a year later. If Jews were smart, deceptive, clever beasts to 
>be exterminated; Slavs were dumb, stupid beasts to be exterminated.
>
>And what do you think the fate of Africa would have been with Hitler 
>and his ideological fellows ruling Europe for half a century?
>
>As it was, the Grand Alliance against Nazism was a very near-run 
>thing. Had things gone even slightly worse on the battlefields, we 
>would now be looking back at a second half of the twentieth century 
>full of horrors that would dwarf the GULAG or the Great Leap 
>Forward. Think of Pol Pot on a Eurasian scale--that's the 
>consequence of a Nazi victory in World War II.
>
>Brad DeLong

At 3:56 PM -0700 9/4/01, Brad DeLong wrote:
>>This from a man who thinks we should debate whether or not Nato was 
>>a sufficient
>>way to stop the impending genocide on the poor Kosovars- and thinks those who
>>call the trial false are simply deluded, but thinks the media is somehow
>>trustworthy on the subject of the trial of Milosevic.
>>
>>One need not be a Spart to realise that of course an Iraqi 
>>[victory] would be a good thing.
>
>The High Stalinists had a kind of... Miltonian grandeur. They were 
>stooges of a genocidal paranoid madman, yes. But Stalin was a madman 
>who genuinely believed that his crimes were necessary steps on the 
>road to Utopia.
>
>However, we have fallen far when we willingly become stooges for 
>Milosevic or for Saddam Hussein, who have no illusions about their 
>regimes being the next stage in the evolution of human society...
>
>It's as if the story of Faust is being retold, this time not as 
>tragedy but as farce. To swear allegiance to Josef Stalin is to 
>become a vassal of Satan himself. To swear allegiance to Milosevic 
>or Saddam Hussein is to become a vassal of... Pazuzu...
>
>Brad DeLong

By his own logic, then, Brad DeLong is a High Stalinist with 
Miltonian grandeur, a vassal of Satan himself.  :->

Yoshie