Counterpunch article

[Steve Perry]

absolutely spot-on. i will not presume to criticize anybody in the throes of
grief, and i don't wish to add to their burdens--their personal burdens,
that is. but the liberal argument contains a submerged premise at least as
offensive as any they have presumed to rage about here, and it is that, at
the end of the day, *of course* huge and unjustifiable numbers of innocent
casualties on "our" side are more real and more outrageous than same when it
happens someplace else, even if it happens at our hands or those of the
people we sponsor.

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[mailto:owner-lbo-talk at lists.panix.com]On Behalf Of ppillai at sprint.ca
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 7:17 PM
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Subject: Re: Counterpunch article

David Jennings wrote:

<djenning at arches.uga.edu>


>
> On Fri, 14 Sep 2001 ppillai at sprint.ca wrote:
>
> > Its ironic that for all Leo's whining about how the left on this list
> > has been callously using the recent tragedy to push its 'agenda', its
> > actually been Leo with his hysterical and sanctimonious outrage that has
> > been using the recent atrocity in an attempt to brow-beat any leftist
>
> OR, maybe he's in real pain.  I disagree with most of what Leo says,
> including what he's been posting recently, but I would NEVER propose that
> he is "using the recent atrocity", particularly after his personal and
> obviously deeply felt account of his experiences since tuesday.
>
> I'm constantly amazed at the shit that people feel they can get away with
> on lists.
>
> - -david
>

Bullshit!
I was willing to give Leo and other liberals like Newman the benifit of the
doubt for the first couple of days after the event -- that it was simply the
trauma and the shock of the event. But it was very clear that they were not
only
continuing to depict tues. events as something unprecendented in its horror
and
in a category all to its self, defying all comparisons to other atrocities
but
that they were also using the horific trgedy to beat over the head with
emotional, hysterical outbursts any attempt at contextualizing the recent
tragedy. Even despicably implying that those who would rationally try to
understand the recent tragedy without recourse to self-righteous liberal
hysterics, are people who are really somehow gloating over the recent deaths
and
cynically using them as pretext to put forth their anti-american agenda.
That
Leo et al would use (consciously or not)  the horrible tragedy to
emotionally
bully and hence silence reasonable discussion he is serving his social role
as a
good liberal well --to draw the boundaries of permissible discussion,  to
distract attention and analysis from the larger historical, social
framework,
and to cover the systems left flank from any real or ideological threats --
all
functions he serves quite admirably, whether or nor he his clever enough to
be
aware of it.

love 'n rage
pradeep