You are really priceless, Leo: Bomb Serbia, you say; intervene in the former Yugoslavia, invade Somalia, etc., the US motives are pure and good and noble. Never mind that the US didn't have anything to do with East Timor, except to install, support, and arm the Indonesian regime that killed millions over the last 35 years, or that the US didn't intervene in Rwanda, where indeed it is conceivable that it might have done some good. The civilian casualties from our noble and highminded interventions don't seem to disturb you at all. I don't in any way minimize the horror of the recent crimes in NY and DC, I don't say that these were atrocities BUT. There were atrocities, full stop, utterlyw ithout excuse or redeeming value. You, hwowever, don't even acknowledge _as_ atrocities the large scale civilian deaths implicated in the interventions you support. I guess it depends onw ho is doing the killinga nd who is being killed.
In addition, you indulge in racebaiting Stephen without even knowing his race, just as (old debate here) you redbaited Solidaritity, Labor Notes, TDU, and Tarpinian, and the LRA, all without correct information; and you wouldn't accept the correct information when it was offered to you by someone who had it. What an amazing mind you have. And what is it that puts you on the left? jks
It is not sufficient that you condemn NATO intervention to end the
>ethnic cleansing in the former Yugoslavia, you must add situations like
>Somalia, where the failed American effort was clearly one of peacekeeping,
>and East Timor, where you apparently feel it was a great crime to support
>UN intervention against the massacres of the Indonesian backed militia.
>And, of course, you manage to avoid what was indeed one of the great
>humanitarian failures of American foreign policy this last decade -- the
>failure to intervene to end the genocide of the Tutsis -- because that
>would mean that intervention could be for good purposes.
>
>Why do I think you are Caucasian? Because of the cynical, self-serving way
>you throw about the charge of racism to cover your lack of an argument. It
>is not an exclusive trait of our white brethren, but 9 out of 10 times, one
>does find it there.
>
> >Let's review what Chomsky actually wrote:
> >
> >"The terrorist attacks were major atrocities. In scale they may not reach
> >the level of many others..."
> >
> >We'll go slowly here, pal. "Major atrocities." Got that?
> >
> >Now -- "In scale" -- he means the total number of dead people -- "they
>may
> >not reach the level of many others." Are you contending that no other
> >atrocity killed more people?
> >
> >He offers an example of an incident the effects of which you continue to
> >discount, and then says that there are "much worse cases, which easily
> >come to mind."
> >
> >Again, do you dispute that? Or don't examples from the Clinton
> >Administration alone easily come to your mind? Iraq, Lebanon, Palestine,
> >Serbia, Somalia, Timor, Turkey, Palestine, Colombia...?
> >
> >"But that this was a horrendous crime is not in doubt," says Chomsky. "It
> >is likely to prove to be a crushing blow to Palestinians and other poor
> >and oppressed people."
> >
> >I can understand why you're uncomfortable, since you want to defend
> >Clinton's cruise missiles and the US/NATO war. How do you feel about the
> >coming Bush War?
> >
> >Chomsky helps you get your thoughts together by quoting Robert Fisk:
> >
> >"This is not the war of democracy versus terror that the world will be
> >asked to believe in the coming days. It is also about American missiles
> >smashing into Palestinian homes and US helicopters firing missiles into a
> >Lebanese ambulance in 1996 and American shells crashing into a village
> >called Qana and about a Lebanese militia - paid and uniformed by
>America's
> >Israeli ally - hacking and raping and murdering their way through refugee
> >camps."
> >
> >Regards, CGE
> >
> >PS: What makes you think I'm Caucasian? Doing some of your own racial
> >profiling, are you?
>
>.
>
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