<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2>Yes, and I would agree on that assessment. I have a lot of respect for Juan
<BR>Gonzalez and especially Major Owens, whom I have known personally for many
<BR>years, and their interventions had won me over to the
<BR>anti-Pacifica/anti-Utrice position. But I found Murdock quite convincing,
<BR>because a lot of what he said resonated with my impression of WBAI politics
<BR>over the years. The debate gave me some second thoughts.
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<BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">The buzz on the Pacifica lists is that this morning's debate on
<BR>Democracy Now between boardmember (and corporate lawyer at the
<BR>unionbusting firm Epstein Becker and Green <http://www.ebglaw.com>)
<BR>John Murdock (defender of HMOs
<BR><http://www.ebglaw.com/atty_bio_59.htm>) and former DN co-host Juan
<BR>Gonzalez was a clear victory for Murdock, and a "disaster" for the
<BR>SavePacifica crowd. Anyone hear it? Any comments?
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<BR>Doug
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<BR></FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">Leo Casey
<BR>United Federation of Teachers
<BR>260 Park Avenue South
<BR>New York, New York 10010-7272 (212-598-6869)
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<BR>Power concedes nothing without a demand.
<BR>It never has, and it never will.
<BR>If there is no struggle, there is no progress.
<BR>Those who profess to favor freedom, and yet deprecate agitation are men who
<BR>want crops without plowing the ground. They want rain without thunder and
<BR>lightning. They want the ocean without the awful roar of its waters.
<BR><P ALIGN=CENTER>-- Frederick Douglass --
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