On Mon, 09 Apr 2001 13:48:31 -0400, Kelley Walker wrote: > >> Like I'm not trying to pay the rent by writing, like it costs >> nothing for Internet access, subscriptions, phone calls, travel, >> and like it takes no time to maintain a website. The net has bred >> a righteous sense of entitlement among users, because it seems to >> be costless - there's no commodity you can drop on your foot, so >> it must be free, right? > > i don't think that it's the physicalness of the commodity that's at > issue. rather,it's the way the Web was developed--on the model of > commercial television. i am pretty sure you mean, 'how the web was popularized,' not "the way the Web was developed." i know i was quite happy with the 12 sites that constituted the web when i was at ga. tech -- and have nothing but lament for it's subsequent commercialization... > now, advertising on the 'net is especially ineffective, as the not- > conomy is discovering. couldn't happen to a nicer group of squatters! i'm sorry, but the web was not conceived of as a commercial marketplace, it does not have the mechanisms that support commercialization, and it has proven difficult at best to import the kinds of things (such as law) that encourage widespread commercial exchange... > the other thing that's interesting is that people are willing to > trade privacy--information about themselves that can be sold to > marketers--for access to information (gak: content) that they want. > this is the direction the Web will take and that's where the money > will come from. i am equally sceptical of this as a mass business model, as well. just *how* big a database does the marketing industry need to make their pitches laser-precise? it might work for a few sites, but it sure won't support a bunch of them... > now, this is the wetdream --endless orgasms, 'k joe?--of the Web > entrepreneur. somewhere i was reading about mapping the Internet > so you could know where a user was logging in from far more > specifically than they can now. ahhh, the reincarnation of the hacker! (i have repeatedly argued that one of the characteristics of hacking is the archiving of the net, and that one day (soon), hackers will be seen as the librarians of the net!) > this is information people want in order to track cybercriminals, be a hacker to catch a hacker??? hahaha. > fraudsters, kiddie porn pimps, etc. and there was some talk about > how our privacy will be invaded by the gov't. yadda. more > practically, it's a technology that will be exploited by > marketers/advertisers/retailers/etc.: correlate your IP addy with > something akin to the zip codes used by marketers now. THEN, > tailor the content the user sees to what marketers think appeal to > them, what's in their price range. it's quite possible that > "content" will be tailored as well, no? even news content. (this > is the scenario hinted at by J. Turow in _Breaking Up America_ -- > altho, certainly not in paranoiac terms!) (more than one owner of isps have noted how similar spammers and hackers have become...) ac ''' (0 0) ----oOO----(_)---------- | the geek shall | | inherit the earth | -----------------oOO---- |__|__| || || ooO Ooo ------------------------------------------------------------ FREE EMAIL from AUSI at http://ausi.com