<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"> <META content="MSHTML 5.50.4611.1300" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=LeoCasey@aol.com href="mailto:LeoCasey@aol.com">LeoCasey@aol.com</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=lbo-talk@lists.panix.com href="mailto:lbo-talk@lists.panix.com">lbo-talk@lists.panix.com</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, May 11, 2001 8:24 AM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Just War</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV><FONT face=arial,helvetica><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px" TYPE="CITE"><FONT size=2>However, there is a considerable gap between resisting or evading immediate <BR>attack, and planning war.  </FONT></BLOCKQUOTE> <DIV><BR><FONT lang=0 face=Arial color=#000000 size=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF"><FONT size=2>>></FONT><BR></FONT><FONT lang=0 face=Arial color=#000000 size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF">Absolutely, and that is one of the distinctions that lie at the core of the <BR>just war theory. A war of aggression is not, by defintion, just; a war of <BR>self-defense may be just.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT lang=0 face=Arial color=#000000 size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF">===========</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2>What is a war of self-defense? All wars begin with an aggressor. Use of passive third person narratives by the aggressor to justify the inuaguration of violence expose the fallacies involved. Ex post "victors justice" models, posing as just war theory fail to adequately parse this distinction. Hence my queries about what constitutes moral authority.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT lang=0 face=Arial color=#000000 size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF"></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT lang=0 face=Arial color=#000000 size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF">>></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT lang=0 face=Arial color=#000000 size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF"> This begs the key issue of where one draws the line <BR>between wars of aggression and wars of self-defense, but it does allow us to <BR>begin to think more clearly and precisely about these questions. </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2>==============================</FONT></DIV><FONT lang=0 face=Arial color=#000000 size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF"></FONT></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV><FONT face=arial,helvetica><FONT lang=0 face=Arial color=#000000 size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF">Who gets to draw the line is every bit as important; and that is where we need to go especially if we are to help people decode the outright lies coming from the Bush administration.</FONT></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=arial,helvetica><FONT lang=0 face=Arial color=#000000 size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF"></FONT></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=arial,helvetica><FONT lang=0 face=Arial color=#000000 size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF">Ian</DIV> <DIV><BR><BR></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></FONT></FONT></BODY></HTML>