Food Is, Still, Clearly Not a Human Right - answers to you all

Ian Murray seamus2001 at attbi.com
Mon Apr 1 11:57:28 PST 2002


----- Original Message ----- From: "Justin Schwartz" <jkschw at hotmail.com> To: <lbo-talk at lists.panix.com> Sent: Monday, April 01, 2002 11:43 AM Subject: Re: Food Is, Still, Clearly Not a Human Right - answers to you all


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>
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Justin Schwartz" <jkschw at hotmail.com>
> >
> > > Stop right there. I reject liberal rights of property as we have known
> >them.
> > > I'm a socialist. . . . . what foirm
> > > propert rights should take, and I think they should be socialist.
> >
> >=================
> >Ok, and when the majority uses universal suffrage to change property rights
> >to "private" would you
> >have an elite cadre of judges paternalistically overruling them?
>
> Doomsday, not me, I'm _super_-conservative on judicial review, in the
> general neighborhood of Judge Learned Hand and Justice Holmes. "If the
> people want to take the country to Hell, I'll help them do it," Holmes said,
> "It's my job." An admirable attitude for a judge, in my view.
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Don't get me started on Holmes.......


>
> Or would you set the contitutional
> >bias of the State to prevent majoritarianism on this issue?
> >
> >
>
> Sure, put it in the Constitution. It's part of the framework of society, if
> the people want to amend the Constitution or have a revolution, who's gonna
> stop 'em?

=============== Didn't we just have a discussion last month about weapons of mass destruction and their relationship to elites ability to thwart a revo that could effectively minimize the loss of life?


>
> Are you trying to accuse me of being too democratic (willing to let the
> people choose capitalism over socialism) or not democratic enough (unwilling
> to do that)? Put me in the "too democratic" ledger.
>
> jks
>

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Testy today aren't we? :->

Ian



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