Marxism aims to abolish the state and liberalism does not ( was Food ...)

Jim Farmelant farmelantj at juno.com
Sun Apr 7 08:28:13 PDT 2002


On Sat, 06 Apr 2002 23:38:20 +0000 "Justin Schwartz" <jkschw at hotmail.com> writes:
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> > > Pragmatism and Marxism are twin children of Hegel. I'm planning
> a paper
> >on
> > > this for a panel in honor of Sidney Hook's early pragmatic
> Marxsima t
> >the Am
> > > Phil Assn meetings at Christmas.
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> >Whoah, I thought Pierce deplored H even more than he quibbled with
> K. Are
> >you going to mention his foibles with various New
> >England apothecaries?
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> I was thinking of Dewey, who started out as a Hegelian. Also
> Schiller.
> (FCS), the Englsih prag, influenced by British Hegelianism). Quinean
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> neopragmatism takes off from Neurath, the Marxist log pos; Quine
> uses
> Neurath's boat as the epigraph for Word and Object. Wilfrid Sellars
> credits
> his basic insights to reading Engels in the 30s.

BTW the new Spring 2002 issue of Science & Society has an article "Socialist Calculation and Environmental Valuation: Money, Markets and Ecology" by John O'Neill which focuses between the parallels between the debates over ecological economics and the socialist calculation debate between Hayek and Neurath. O'Neill takes the position that many of Neurath's ideas concerning socialist economic planning are still relevant today for both socialists and greens.


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> Yeah, there always is. Read Menard on the prags yet? Good book. When
> I have
> more to say on this, I'll post it.

Menand's book is a good one, but too bad he had relatively little to say about the impact of Pragmatism on socialist thought in the US, which was a phenomenon that predated Hook.

Jim F.


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