why the US won't do this
Peter K.
peterk at enteract.com
Mon Apr 8 17:21:12 PDT 2002
>>But the establishment itself would no more see Israel defeated than
>>they would see New York defeated. It is morally an extension of the
>>US. Anti-Israeli feeling outside of Palestine proper is inevitably a
>>form of anti-American feeling. The US elite could never bend to it,
>>without harming themselves.
>>
>>The difference with Rambouillet is palpable. Sharon is not
>>Milosevic, however much we deracinated intellectuals might draw
>>formalistic comparisons: I mean that Israel is identified with the
>>US in a way that Serbia just never could be.
>>--
>>James Heartfield
>
>Comparison with Yugoslavia won't do, for reasons that you explain,
>but the US/Australia pulled East Timor on Indonesia, when it became
>clear that the severe economic crisis profoundly destabilized
>Indonesia, demanding a new political settlement, and that the
>leadership of the Timorese independence movement proved themselves to
>be cooperative. Perhaps the US has not moved on Israel because a
>similar crisis (an economic crisis leading to a legitimation crisis)
>has not happened to it yet.
>--
>Yoshie
Try as I might, I really can't follow this line of argument. It's as if some
cognitive dissonance - not on my part I hope - is in effect. Milosevic
is a war criminal. Sharon is a war criminal. Their victims didn't
find their actions very formalistic. I sense an aporia in the anti-US-at-all-costs
left argument.
Israel is NOT morally an extension of the US however hard the ultraleft
and the Israeli and American right argue it is and however hard both
would argue that the war on theocratic fascism and the war on Palestinians
are one in the same.
The US is "bending" to international pressure as I type, demanding
that the IDF pull out "immediately" and they have already started.
Seems sort of "Rambouilletish". And I would really, really like to see
Yoshie explain *why* a destablized Indonesia "needed a new
political settlement," specifically one with an Independent East Timor,
after the economic crisis. Jeez.
Peter
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