U.S. Guilt

joanna bujes joanna.bujes at ebay.sun.com
Wed Apr 24 14:43:21 PDT 2002


At 03:59 PM 04/24/2002 -0400, ravi wrote:
>i would say that the holocaust museum, schindlers list, the strangeness
>of arabs and the similarity of jewish people (cultural, physical, etc),
>the number and strength of the domestic jewish population, and things
>like these, are what drive the american attitude, which is a mix of
>guilt and sympathy.

OK. Holocaust museum: you could build a number of such museums: one for the indigenous people of the Americas (that's definitely on the holocaust scale); one for the african slaves; one for the chinese coolies killed building the railroads; one for the Hawaiians; one for the vietnamese.....

Schindler's List: more nauseating propaganda. Reeaalllly nauseating.

Strange arabs???? OK.

Similarilty of jewish people: what you really mean is similarity of U.S. jews, which is a different thing altogether. The zionists actually had a lot of trouble with the diversity of world jewery, ESPECIALLY middle eastern jews. That's why they had to resurrect/invent a "jewish" language - Hebrew and make everyone learn it. So the homogeneity is either manufactured or more a function of the fact that they're American (US) rather than the fact that they're jews.

What drives the American attitude is the above "representations" -- which are officially sanctioned and repeated ad nauseam through the media, arts, think tanks, intellectual posturing, etc. But they are more fiction than reality.

The reality, in 32 point capital letters, is that American jews could not even be bothered to agitate for loosening immigration policies during the thirties and WWII, because they were afraid they'd lose status once their unwashed east european cousins hit US shores. And their guilt over that did not seem to kick in until 67/73 when it turned out that the U.S. govt had some uses for the zionist movement.

Chosen people my ass.


>why would you say that US policy is behind the guilt or sympathy that
>americans feel [exclusively] for israel? is/was there a concerted
>effort, by the powers that control the govt, to help create this
>perception? what motivates such a govt policy? is it the benefits of a
>client state in the middle east? is it the advantages derived by keeping
>the region unstable?

I think you have mostly answered your own question: a certain number of zionists showed themselves ready and willing to take up the cudgels for western imperialism in the middle east (and throughout the world as a paramilitary force). Following 67, the US government decided they were well worth maintaining and rewarding. Without the US government, the Israeli state would have needed to make its own peace with its Arab and Palestinian neighbors...and as a result, it would be a very different kind of state than it is today....or perhaps no state at all.

However, as things developed, what we have instead is a war criminal in charge of one of the most powerful armies in the world, backed up by a moron in charge of the most powerful army in the world. I am absolutely convinced that if Israel turns out to be a real liability, the US will change its policies and scapegoat Israel/jews. For additional detail, see Freud's "Civilization and its Discontents." (Just kidding...no but really, he makes that comment in there...that the jews make THE ur scapegoats.)

The safe haven Israel offers world jewry is completely belied by the facts today, when a jew is least safe in Israel and when jews world-wide are more and more endangered by zionist US/Israeli policies.

The important thing to remember is that NONE OF THIS IS ABOUT RELIGION. NOT ANY OF IT!

Joanna



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