What I said was that the green party is neo-liberal and are more capitalist than they are liberal,they don't care about the environment anymore than bush does,they don't care about the poor,and social programs,they tell you what you want to hear. Go to WSWS World Socialists Web Site and read the articles they have on Ralph Nader in their archives. Of course I no the need for environmental change, but your not going to get help from the green party, they are phoneys. If push come to shove, they won't be on the side of the liberal left. I have people e-mail me all the time that had been sucked in by the greens crap and after they did some research about them they wrote me back and said they were going back to the democrats. You know if you think the greens can get us out of this mess were in, hell vote for them and put the republicans in office, then watch your civil rights go down the tubes, and every thing else we true leftists have fought for all of these years,like I said,I don't like a lot of things the dems. have done or have not done in the last year and a half,they should have went after bush,with all the evidence out their about his underhanded dealings,etc. etc. in fact they should have started impeachment proceedings.Maybe I do sound hysterical,but living through 6 republican administrations in my 53 years have made me this way,I know what they are capable of,and if they win in the up coming elections, this country is history,and you won't even be able to mention environmental problems.I don't know maybe thats what you want,because if you vote for the green party thats what you will get.
IN SOLIDARITY NEW EVOLUTIONARY WORLD SOCIALISTS
Max
--- billbartlett at dodo.com.au wrote:
> gary butler wrote:
>
> > Your research has taken you to a different
> place
> >than I. The green party is nothing but a bunch of
> >neo-liberals
>
> In Aust, the Greens are on the far left of the
> political spectrum. At least in the context of
> political parties that actually win seats in
> parliament. I know who they are, because I've known
> and worked with them for donkey's years, they are my
> neighbours and acquaintances. Senator Bob Brown,
> the Australian leader of the Greens, lives about up
> the road from me, about 10 miles from Bracknell.
>
> There are some sort of rightish Green groups too,
> such as Liberals for Forests. It is also true of
> course that the Australian Greens don't claim to be
> socialists, but they are definitely opposed to
> neo-liberalism. Unlike the Australian Labor Party,
> which *is* nominally socialist (it has a socialist
> objective written into its constitution.) But the
> ALP is also the party which pioneered neo-liberal
> social policy in Australia. Deregulation of banking,
> floating the currency, privatisation of government
> service, etc.
>
> The greens might be different in Nth America, it
> wouldn't surprise me that the greens are more right
> wing there, since everyone else (including most of
> population) is on what the rest of the world would
> regard as the loony right. But your assertions are
> rather vague.
>
> >The green party is like the old medicine man,
>
> In what way? You're being a little vague, in fact
> you sound almost hysterical. Are you suggesting that
> preserving the environment from the ravages of the
> profit motive is snake oil? Are you one of those
> that doubts the science behind the greenhouse effect
> for example?
>
> Bill Bartlett
> Bracknell Tas
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