Milton the Anarchist Re: "post-leftism"

[Gordon Fitch]

"Gordon Fitch" <gcf at panix.com>:
> > In the hypothetical no-fly anarchy, our anarchists aren't
> > specifically against airplanes; they're against shooting people
> > merely to get airplanes.  Because the shooting is somehow
> > messed up by anarchist activities, the airplanes don't happen
> > to get built.  There's no need or desire to stop people from
> > building airplanes voluntarily, but it just doesn't happen to
> > happen because of the decline of shooting people as a regular
> > practice and the (as yet unexplained) connection between
> > shooting people and building airplanes.

Ian Murray:
> Friends of anarchists are against shooting people to get airplanes
> or anything else too. How would anarchists stop the shooting without
> pickup weapons themselves?


> ...

Are we done with the lack of airplanes already?  I thought
that was a really interesting subject: the proposed necessity
of coercion to produce even medium-high technology and what
that might imply about the forms human societies can take.
The argument ought to run something like: "You can't get the
necessary surpluses without appropriating them, by force if
necessary, from the dull-witted worker, who is unable to
understand the need for them" or something like that, maybe
put more politely.  No?  We can have anarchist airplanes
after all?

-- Gordon