bad nooz for Dems

[Nathan Newman]

----- Original Message -----
From: "Justin Schwartz" <jkschw at hotmail.com>
>And you say seven years is not enough. What is enough? Fourteen years?
>Thirty? This is the long run in which we are all dead. If I want to take
>those sorts of time horizons, I will bet on socialism rather than the good
>guys taking over the DP. My comrades have worked 25 years in the Teamsters,
>but they have something to show for it. I'd rather put my efforts with them.

Wait a second- apples and oranges.  The issue before was where to spend the
time that is devoted to electoral politics between the Dems and third party
voting.  A totally separate issue is how much time to devote to electoral
organizing versus non-electoral work such as union work.

I am very biased towards non-electoral organizing as the key work of
leftists, since success there is far more likely to translate into social
change, whether in the immediate benefits and power conveyed or in
strengthening peoples movements in whatever electoral work they do based on
that non-electoral power.

I fully endorse the idea that TDU and Solidarity folks have a lot to show for
their union work; I just think they have almost nothing to show for their
electoral  work.  But I would not urge that they substitute work on Dem
campaigns for their union work.

-- Nathan Newman