From: Chuck Grimes <cgrimes at rawbw.com>
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Okay, I knew we were going to get this lecture, despite the fact that the US executive branch is now empowered to carry out police state repression of an entire class of people on their own say so alone.
The structural or legislative foundation for a nazi-like state is an accomplished fact, with a racialized target---arab, middle eastern, non-citizen. That must cover several hundred thousand people and if you toss in latin americans by mistake, then probably a million or more.
The administration is now in disparate need of a concrete scapegoat, because the Afghanistan war is essentially over as is the blood lust over Sept 11. The administration is working very hard to keep this going, and it is in fact collapsing. So they are in the position of manufacturing an enemy. All of this is at the cusp of being outright fascist. Sure it isn't quite there yet.
So, specifically how would you characterize the US state of affairs, in relation to fascism, naziism and their authoritarian states?
Chuck Grimes
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Charles: To reiterate an important point, the thing is to learn from history. It was world historically tragic that the Germans did not stop the Nazis before they became what the world now knows as Nazis and fascism. Frankly, if the 1932 Nazis or Mussolini Fascism had been all that they ever got to, they wouldn't be considered the ultimate criminals that they are. We are in "1932", so of course Bush is not fully Nazified. He is early Nazified. This is the time when it is possible to prevent Holocaust II. What is lost by responding to Bushism as Nazism-in-formation ?
And of course by Holocaust II , I don't mean that Bush will mass murder Jews. However, he does have a target with masses of Semites: Arabs.