--- Doug Henwood <dhenwood at panix.com> wrote: > Yoshie
Furuhashi wrote:
>
> >Auschwitz wasn't inevitable even in Germany, much
> less other "nation states."
>
> Few things in social life are inevitable, but
> consider this - the
> good things you've mentioned that some nation-states
> provide, like
> social benefits, do depend on notions of
> citizenship, which depend on
> notions of exclusion. The Scandinavian welfare
> state, as admirable as
> it is, couldn't survive a regime of open borders.
> Nor could even our
> very minimal welfare state in the U.S. survive free
> traffic across
> the Rio Grande. It makes me uncomfortable to
> confront these sorts of
> facts, but they're real. What do you make of them?
What's to stop one excluding immigrants who haven't worked for X number of years?
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