----- Original Message ----- From: "Justin Schwartz" <jkschw at hotmail.com> To: <lbo-talk at lists.panix.com> Sent: Friday, July 12, 2002 9:05 PM Subject: Re: Cop Watching is Illegal
> Bail isn't trial. There is no implication that an accuastion of petty
theft
> results in mandatory imprisonment. I don't know the statute, but if it is
> described correctly, it says that if you accused os petty theft in that
> state, and have a prior, you can't be released on bail pending your trial.
> Bail in general is not a right, although if it is available it can't be
> unreasonably high.
>
> A more disturbing police state tendency--the real thing--is the Rumsfeld
> determination that US citizens can be held indefinitely on suspicion of
> terrorism without being charged, tried, or given access to an attorney.
Fortunately for us, the Rumsfeld determination doesn't carry with it the force of a Supreme Court ruling. Until such time as it does, I think talk of an impending police state is perhaps slightly premature.
-- Luke
> federal district (trial) court (without precedential force) ruling I heard
> about today--I haven't read it yet--apparently
said that some or all of this
> is OK. This was by the chief judge of the Southern District of NY (in
> Manhattan), a very influential court. ANother SDNY court came out the
other
> way. jks
>
>
>
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