jeff
Begin forwarded message:
> From: Jeffrey Fisher <jfisher at igc.org>
> Date: Wed Jun 12, 2002 10:39:35 AM US/Central
> To: lbo-talk at lists.panix.com
> Subject: Re: Poll in Palestine
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, June 12, 2002, at 12:41 AM, Daniel Davies wrote:
>
>>
>> Wow, that's the most dishonest piece of reporting spin I've ever seen
>> in my
>> life.
>
> i think it's even more dishonest than you suggest . . .
>
>>
>> You get the story:
>>
>>> JERUSALEM (Reuters) - A majority of Palestinians
>>> believe the aim of their 20-month-old uprising should
>>> be to eliminate Israel and not just end Israeli
>>> occupation in the West Bank and Gaza Strip ( news -
>>> web sites), an opinion poll released Tuesday showed.
>
> a similar majority also saw "the intifada and negotiations together" as
> the "best way to achieve [palestinian] national goals." what would
> reuters do with that, i wonder.
>
>>
>> by asking the question:
>>
>>> Fifty-one percent of people surveyed said the end
>>> result of the uprising should be "liberating all of
>>> historic Palestine," referring to British-mandate
>>> Palestine, part of which was recognized as Israel in
>>> 1948.
>>
>
> look at the actual question:
> Q.7 In your opinion, what should be the end result of the current
> Intifada, is it improving the negotiation conditions for Palestinians,
> ending occupation based on UN Resolution 242 and the establishment of
> the Palestinian state or liberating all of historic Palestine?
>
>> <snip>
>>
>> Come on, how many of us, before breakfast, would have worked out that
>> "liberating all of historic Palestine" was code for driving the Jews
>> into
>> the sea?
>
> especially if you looked at the previous poll, which includes a
> question not asked in the most recent (actual results distinguish west
> bank from gaza responses, but i'm just providing the total, here):
>
> 7. Some believe that a two-state formula is the favored solution for
> the Arab-Israeli conflict, while others believe that historic
> Palestine cannot be divided and thus the favored solution is a
> bi-national state on all of Palestine wherein Palestinians and Israelis
> enjoy equal representation and rights. Which of these solutions do you
> prefer?
>
> 1. Two state solution: an Israeli and a Palestinian
> 41.6
>
> 2. Bi-national state on all of historic Palestine
> 31.6
>
> 3.Palestinian state
> 0.2
>
> 4. Islamic state
> 3.4
>
> 5. Sovereign, Independent Palestinian with Jerusalem as it’s capital
> 5.7
>
> 6. Palestinian state on all of historic Palestine and return of refugees
> 12.5
>
> 7. There is no solution
> 0.1
>
> 8. I don't know
> 3.9
>
> 9. No answer
> 0.9
>
>
> huh. even if you factor inhow much worse the recent offensives have
> made things (detailed in the current poll), you still have to recognize
> that many more palestinians are likely to understand "liberating
> historic palestine" as a binational state and not as driving the jews
> into the sea. isn't it also funny that right of return is only
> explicitly included in precisely the case (palestinian state on all of
> historic palestine) where it ought to go without saying . . . i wonder
> how that number might drop if you removed that phrase from that
> response. or added it, say, to response 2.
>
> btw, all of jmcc's polls are available on their web site. here are
> links to the last two:
> http://www.jmcc.org/publicpoll/results/2002/no45.htm
> http://www.jmcc.org/publicpoll/results/2002/no44.htm
>
> jeff
>
>
> --
> jeff fisher
> dilettante--er, that's "so-called intellectual"
> http://www.brainmortgage.com/
>