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>Justin:
>However, I was talking to Charles,w ho is a fan
>of state repression.
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>Charles: Justin this is slander. You are a liar.
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Charles, have you not said you think that counterrevolutionary speech, including speech critical of socialism or supportive of capitalism ought to be suppressed? As well as a racist and fascist speech, but set that aside, I don't agree with it, but many demoxcratic societies do this, e.g., France and Germany. Have you not said that scholars who criticize a socialist revolutionor who defend a capitalist obe ought for that reason be treated as if they had actuallyt carried out the policies they advocate, even if that means shooting them? I said, you recall, "Bang! Gives a whole new meaning to being fired." I was joking, but you said, "Revolutions are violent." You weren't. Haven';t you said that Khrushchev--granted he was a great improvement on Stalin--was about as civil libertarian as you care to be, and K, after all, had an ideological police that censored the press and the arts? What's state repressuion if not all that?
I am an kneejerk ACLU First Amendment fundamentalist, Congress shall make NO LAW limited freedom of the speech or of the press. Such laws, which you advocate, are state repression. You say you don't advocate a Stalinist terror, and I accept that. But you do advocate at least Khrushchevite repression. No lie! So: in this country, under our Firast Amendment doctrine, truth is a defense to a charge of slander, and what I said was true. Unless you take back the above . . . .
jks
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