studies

joanna bujes joanna.bujes at ebay.sun.com
Sun Mar 17 11:45:46 PST 2002


At 07:43 PM 03/16/2002 -0500, Miles wrote:
>I have to say I don't get how people can have such a casual disregard
>for scientific research that challenges their preconceptions. "Studies
>will prove anything": so we don't need to keep track of rape stats?
>poverty? The number of toxic waste sites in the U. S.? Violations
>of labor law? If we simply believe in what we want to believe, and
>that worldview is impervious to change via new information, how are
>we going to really figure out what's going on and generate solutions
>to the problems?

Nah. I stand by my original neanderthal statement. I don't believe the choice is between "studies" and ignorance. I don't believe that we are destined to live short brutish lives from which we can only be saved by social science.


>Is there some sloppy social science research? Sure. But we need to
>apply thoughtful criteria to evaluate the research, not simply reject
>it because it's social science. By the logic Joanna applies above,
>she should be skeptical of physics because of that cold fusion fiasco
>a few years ago.

We have deified the scientific process at the expense of everything. If somebody shows me a "study," I feel like I need to know everything about who did it, why they did it, what their backgrounds were, what their assumptions were, and much, much more, before I credit a single "finding." What most people call science and social science, I see as mythology pursuing a certain academically-determined ritual.

I am deeply skeptical about everything that claims to trump frail humanity.


>To apply a cliche, let's not throw out the baby with the bathwater.
>We can learn interesting and important stuff by studying the social
>world.

I am not objecting to the study/observation of the social world. I am only objecting to the idea that there is an exclusive method by which we do that which guarantees the soundness of our findings.

Joanna



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